everybody fucking cut it out ok

Except the view of the average misogynist is accurate.

…How do you know this?Is it just because it’s ‘common knowledge’ that “the average misogynist is a disgusting neckbeard”?

Look, this idea is actually pretty dangerous to women as a class. People already brush off rapist men because “oh but he’s such a nice boy,” “but he’s such a funny guy,” spreading the meme that the “average misogynist” is fat and ill-groomed and is embarrassing in public (and therefore will illicit disgust, hahahaha visceral disgust correlates with evil, this is totally not encouraging forms of bigotry that use disgust at “ugliness” to self-propagate, this is totally enlightened and progressive and not a horrifyingly medieval take on “how to tell someone is evil”) only HELPS TO HIDE the majority of misogynists, most of whom are already very good at using manipulative and abusive tactics to hide their worst qualities from society at large.

This kind of idea makes it harder to recognize that yes, that hilarious director, that actor or musician with the winning smile, really did do those horrible things.

And before anyone says it, yes I am a fucking girl. I’ve even had a guy who was, in fact, a literal brony-slash-anime-fanboy creep on me in college, getting weirdly personal-friendly with me and showing me his “waifus” when I only wanted to express a mutual interest in pastel horse worldbuilding. (Though, for accuracy’s sake, he looked more like this guy than like this guy.) But I think it’s scarier is I could have a conversation with a totally “normal” guy right afterwards, and have absolutely no idea if they saw me as a person, a vaguely sentient subhuman, or a piece of fucking meat. The socially-awkward nerd-subculture types are easy targets, but they’re not the root of misogyny, nor the most common or insidious vectors of it.

[This is in addition to, not as a replacement of, Roachpatrol’s original point, which is that it’s pretty shitty to say your idealogical enemies are ugly and loathesome-looking in order to make them them more hatable, especially whenever you rely on fatphobia to do so. You are basically saying “there is a positive correlation between being fat/ugly and being a horrible person” and that’s…messed up? I thought more people recognized this was messed up?]

Thanks, dude, this is a great take-down. Cruelty is insidious and utterly self-defeating to an equality movement—you go after the wrong targets, you start doing the easy thing instead of the right one. It’s fucked up. It’ll fuck you up. You have to keep in mind that even your enemies are people. 


Anonymous asked:

dif anon but if not for gore maybe tryptophobia? sorry about this yo, for a lot of my friends they get freaked out about pomegranate seeds or fish eggs or just clusters of stuff and i know other people do too but its really up to you and thanks for reading this if you do

pukind answered:

Sorry, but no. If things like that freak anyone out, they can block the post, scroll past it, or unfollow me. The power is in their hands.

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"sir, the enemy gave us a giant wooden horse"

"oh rad bring it in"

okay so i know this has probs been explained on this post five billion times before and it was made for humor but


see, greeks had this concept called “Xenia” (pronounced zen-ee-uh) that was all about hospitality. it was the most important thing, and even when two lands would be at war it was basically law (certainly required by gods, mainly Zeus) that the two leaders had to be cordial to each other, and part of that was the giving of gifts. in fact, if you were a host and you didnt give gifts, everyone would say you were shit and Zeus might even kill you, which is actually how the war start.

Bc when Paris stole Helen, he broke Xenia by taking advantage of Menelaus’s hospitality to commit a crime against him, which was a slap in the face to Zeus.

Another part of Xenia is, if you lose against someone, you’re supposed to give them something. As a mark of respect and also to admit that you done fucked up. So Troy, thinking after ten fucking years the Achaeans might be ready to go home, see this great statue (the wooden horse) and think, oh, it’s our customary battle gift, lets bring it in and celebrate because we’ve won!!!

but Odysseus, because he is a little shit in all ways, actually had his whole plan of attack (which was a super douchebag thing to do, and a lot of the other Achaeans weren’t happy with it because it wasnt the type of honor they were all about that involves the glory of battle and getting yourself killed, and also kinda breaks Xenia which might help explain why none of the gods but Athena, miss cleverness and strategy, really cared that much about getting him home)

No, this… isn’t even slightly right, sorry.

Xe(i)nia, guest-friendship, WAS a big deal for the Homeric and Classical Greeks, no argument there. You have certain obligations to your guest, and ditto to your host: don’t insult the food, for example, and don’t run off with your host’s wife. Paris’ notable fuckup on #2 there was indeed what got the whole war rolling; it was an offence against Zeus Xe(i)nios, Zeus in his aspect as the god of hospitality.

But xenia doesn’t oblige you to be friendly to someone you’re at war with, and it absolutely definitely doesn’t oblige you to leave them an apology-present if you lose the war. The Greeks didn’t pretend the Wooden Horse was a gift for the Trojans, and the Trojans didn’t assume any such thing. In the most common version of the story, which is basically how it appears in the Aeneid, the Greeks pretended the Horse was an offering to the goddess Athene, built in the hope that she’d grant them a safe journey home. The Trojans came out to find the Greeks gone and the Horse standing on the beach, and decided that if they took it into their city it would help them. In some versions there’s a fake prophecy that if the Trojans claim the Horse they’ll enjoy guaranteed divine support for ever. A sneaky Greek double-agent, Sinon, even tells the Trojans that the whole reason the Greeks made the Horse so damn big was so that it couldn’t be taken through the gates of Troy.

The whole thing is presented as a very clever bit of reverse psychology. It’s not:
GREEKS: Hey, Trojans, sorry about the whole ten-year war thing! We got you this sweet horse.
TROJANS: Oh wow, thanks guys, it’ll look amazing in our living room, no hard feelings <3

GREEKS: Okay. Whatever else happens, we must make absolutely sure that in no way do the Trojans take this sweet horse inside their city. That would be the worst possible outcome for us. God, I hope they don’t do that. That would be just awful.

There’s a whole separate question over whether the Horse was a brilliant tactical ploy, a cowardly bit of treachery, or both. Vergil prefers (b), but since the Trojans go on to become the Romans, that’s hardly surprising. Certainly there’s no suggestion in any source I know of that Odysseus’ legendarily awful commute home was him being punished for the Wooden Horse. (His decision to blind the son of Poseidon and then Tweet an ironic selfie captioned just blinded the son of poseidon #yolo was really more the problem there.)



“We should see color. We should see religion. We should see homosexuality. We should see gender identity. We should see all the things that make people and the world different and not pretend that we are colorblind or that one story is enough to represent a whole group of people. But we should also remember that most people have the same kinds of feelings and wants. Everyone wants to be the hero sometimes.”

Author Sara Farizan, “Everyone Wants To Be the Hero Sometimes” (CBC Diversity)